From Cymru Fydd to Plaid Cymru – The Journey

PLAID CYMRU HISTORY SOCIETY

WREXHAM NATIONAL EISTEDDFOD – SOCIETIES TENT

12.30pm, THURSDAY 7 AUGUST 2025

Translation of Lecture by Ieuan Wyn Jones

‘From Cymru Fydd to Plaid Cymru – The Journey’

‘Tom Ellis was the greatest, truest patriot amongst the Members of Parliament during the “Cymru Fydd” period, at the end of the [nineteenth] century. Unfortunately, he accepted a position in his English party, and died shortly afterwards, a year before the turn of that century. He remained a hero in the county though, in our area at least, and his old house was not far from Felin-y-Wig. A large picture of him stood above our fireside mantelpiece at home in the Foty Fawr, and beneath it his words: “Self-government is the inspiration and aim of a nation”. His stance on behalf of Wales remained in our area’s memory and was passed on to us children.’

Excerpt from ‘Tros Gymru’ (1970), p. 21, by J.E. Jones (Plaid Cymru’s General Secretary, 1930-1962).

I begin this lecture with a quote from J.E. Jones’s book because it summarises the thoughts and feelings of some of the early leaders of Plaid Cymru, in the way that it considers the establishment of the Cymru Fydd movement in 1886 as the precursor to the party’s creation, and in their learning the obvious lessons from the failure of that movement. By far the most important lesson was that the principal failing of the nationalists of the Cymru Fydd movement – its attachment to the English and British Liberal Party – was to try to act from within that Liberal party. By 1925 the establishment of a Welsh National Party, that was completely independent of any other party, was a must. Griffith John Williams said in 1935: ‘It was essential to establish a Welsh Political Party’. Indeed, all its members had to sign a pledge to sever any links with other political parties in England and Wales.

But I’m running a little ahead of myself now. The story does not begin in 1886. We must go back to 1847. In many ways it is a critical year in our history as a nation, as that year a Report on the State of Education in Wales was published which soon became known as ‘The Betrayal of the Blue Books’. The intention of the British establishment in setting up the Commission which led to the Report was to try to make the Welsh more loyal to the state. The fact that the majority of Welsh people spoke Welsh and went to chapel led them to be a rebellious nation, with their protesting during the Chartist period and the Rebecca riots clear evidence of that. It was necessary to teach English to their children, to attract them back to the Established (Anglican) Church and thereby ensure a certain submission to their masters.

Reading parts of the Commissioners’ Report today clearly shows not only their lack of understanding of the Welsh nation, but also their arrogant, patronising attitudes towards Welsh speakers and their attachment to Nonconformity. The state of education in Wales was extremely poor, and the lack of teachers’ qualifications was to account for that. The standard of education for the common people in England was not much better, but of course the narrative that the Commissioners insisted upon meant that things were so bad in Wales due to a lack of English language skills. One example among many that populate the Report is the description of the teacher at Llandderfel British School. He understood English fairly well they said, but he spoke ‘with a Welsh idiom and not always grammatically!’.

The desire to teach English to the Welsh, and that at the expense of Welsh, ran side by side with the desire to bring them all back to the Anglican Church’s fold. But the way the Commissioners went about disparaging Nonconformity represented a stain on Welsh morals. Their position can be summed up by saying that for them the chapels were a den of immorality, and their ‘seiat’ meetings a place for women and men to court one another! The response of religious leaders, the only leaders the Welsh had at that time, was unanimous and vehement against the attack on their chapels. However, the response of many of them to the attack on the Welsh language was mixed and sometimes lukewarm.

We must remember the strength of the nonconformist chapels’ influence on the Welsh population. In the first half of the 19th century the leaders of the religious denominations were the natural leaders of the nation. Very few of the noble families, the big landowners and the like had any attachment to Welshness, the Welsh language or to Welsh identity. And up to 1840 relatively few of the religious leaders either were willing to dabble in politics – they were Tories and royalists. And then came the Betrayal of the Blue Books; and Lewis Edwards, Principal of the Calvinistic Methodist College in Bala, saying in 1848 that it was necessary to send ‘Principled Nonconformists to Parliament in every county and every borough throughout Wales.’

Many of the nonconformist political radicals came from among the Independent (i.e. Congregationalist) denomination, rather than from the Methodists. Gwilym Hiraethog for example left the Methodists and joined the Independents and his political radicalism can be seen at its most raw in Yr Amserau, the Welsh newspaper founded in Liverpool in 1846. The foundations of Yr Amserau were quite shaky at the outset, like many Welsh papers of the time. But when Hiraethog began to publish articles in a colloquial style under the title ‘Letters from the Old Farmer’ an audience of new readers was attracted. In these articles and in editorials he railed against the oppression meted out by landlords and began to support patriotic movements abroad. The two main figures who attracted his attention and support were Lajos Kossouth from Hungary and Giuseppe Mazzini from Italy.

Following the Hungarian Revolution in 1848 Kossouth was the country’s President for a short period, but the revolution was ultimately a failure and from then on he was a refugee who spent some time in Britain. Hiraethog praised him for his courage and his understanding of ‘the principles of true national freedom…’. Hungarians visited Hiraethog to thank him for his support. Kossouth came to Liverpool in 1851 and addressed a public meeting. Although there is no direct evidence that Hiraethog and Kossouth ever met, it is highly likely that it did happen during that visit.

And then we come to Hiraethog’s support for Mazzini, the nationalist who fought for the unification of Italy as a state. Mazzini also came to England as an exile and refugee on occasion, seeking the support of political radicals for his cause. One issue that attracted Hiraethog to Mazzini was his attack on Catholicism, something that pleased the radical Nonconformist no end! In correspondence between Hiraethog and Mazzini in 1861, Mazzini thanked the Welsh for their support and encouraged them to petition Parliament in order to put pressure on France to recall its troops from Italy. Hiraethog supported the fight of the Italians for their rights and independence, and there is concrete evidence that Hiraethog and Mazzini met a number of times in Liverpool.

Considering Hiraethog’s strong support for Kossouth and Mazzini in their efforts to secure independence for their countries, you would expect him to be equally as enthusiastic about similar rights for Wales. We can say with certainty that his support for the Welsh language was extremely strong, and he argued in favour of appointing judges who could speak Welsh to the courts in Wales. But there is no record whatsoever that he supported political freedom. And indeed he had little sympathy with the struggle of the Irish for self-government. Their attachment to Catholicism was an obstacle for him: in this respect he showed significant inconsistency though, as Kossouth was a Catholic!

Moving on from Hiraethog, it can be argued that the first person to support political rights for Wales in this period was Thomas Davis the Irishman of Welsh descent, in his book ‘Literary and Historical Essays’ published in 1846. He argued in favour of ‘a local senate’ in a federal form, as found in the American states. We have to wait for Michael D. Jones, Emrys ap Iwan, and later Tom Ellis, to raise the flag and emphasise political freedom alongside the fight for the Welsh language.

There was quite a debate between Michael D. Jones and Emrys ap Iwan about which of them was the first to advocate political rights. In a letter published in Y Genhinen in April 1892, at the time of that year’s general election, Emrys is adamant that it was he who first coined the term ‘ymreolaeth’ – autonomy – and furthermore he ‘was the first in Wales to argue for what the word means’. He can claim ownership of the word ‘ymreolaeth’, but what about his claim that he was the first to argue the case?

In his article on Religion, Nationalism and the State in Wales between 1840 and 1890, R. Tudur Jones says that Michael D. Jones was the father of modern political nationalism in Wales. Michael D. saw that there was a connection between national identity and political power. Although most of the nation’s religious leaders were quite happy that Wales was part of Britain, Michael D. argued that Wales was a minority cultural group in Britain, and English as the language of the majority a dominant language. In order for it to survive, the Welsh language would have to secure official status in the spheres of politics, education and the law. Once that happened, the result would be self-government rather than independence. Indeed there is very little, if any, reference to independence as the main goal of Welsh nationalists in the 19th century. The culmination of Michael D.’s argument was that Wales, like Ireland and India, should be considered colonies. He was the first in his time to see the need for Wales to manage its natural resources, water and minerals and use them for the nation’s benefit. That would create work and slow down the increasing migration of people from Wales to England and abroad. 19th century transport patterns tied Wales increasingly to England and through that was seen, in the words of Prys Morgan, ‘a system of economic inequality, emphasising to the Welsh that their economy was an inferior one, and mainly serving the needs of English Capitalism.’

By the 1870s a growth in Imperialist sentiment was seen in Wales, which coincided with rapid expansion in the number of British colonies and the state’s supposed prestige on the international stage. In this regard, Michael D. was rowing against the tide. He did not see any connection between imperialism and recognition of the rights of nations. He had a deep distrust of the British political establishment, stating that its intention was to eliminate the Welsh nation completely. Nevertheless he was aware of the meekness of many Welsh people as the relationship between Wales and England was so unequal, which in turn led to examples of quasi-paying homage.

The only other prominent figure who agreed with Michael D.’s minority position was Emrys ap Iwan. Emrys was a member of the Calvinistic Methodists, rather than an Independent like Hiraethog and Michael D. And when Emrys claimed that he was the first to campaign for self-government, Michael D. sent him a letter suggesting very subtly that he had influenced – possibly without his knowledge – his nationalistic beliefs!

Defence of the Welsh language was at the heart of Michael D. and Emrys’s nationalism. The easiest way for the state to assimilate the Welsh into one British nation was to eliminate the Welsh language. That, after all, was at the heart of the Betrayal of the Blue Books and the basis of the education laws that required English to be the only medium of education in schools. Aberystwyth University was founded in 1872, yet the Welsh language was not on the curriculum in its early years, and the Principal T. Charles Edwards was a member of Aberystwyth’s English chapel. This underlined the attitude of many of the leading members of religious denominations at the time, some of whom believed the Welsh language was likely to die out eventually. In this period therefore Emrys and Michael D. were very rare examples of people arguing in favour of fighting to keep the Welsh language, teaching it in schools, and making it the official language in courts. When Emrys appeared as a witness in a court case in 1889, he refused to give his evidence in English and insisted on speaking Welsh. There was turmoil in the court, and although the magistrates demanded that he give his evidence in English, he refused to do so. The case was adjourned and when the court reconvened there was a translator there. But since the defendant had admitted his guilt, Emrys’s testimony was not needed after all. Despite this, his stance received considerable attention in the Welsh press and Y Faner in particular was supportive of him.

Until 1886 then, these two voices were pretty much alone in their stance. And no elected politician was arguing in favour of national rights, either. Despite all that Henry Richard, the Apostle of Peace, did for Wales after being elected to represent Merthyr in 1868, he did not espouse self-government. And while a new set of Welsh Members of Parliament was elected in 1886, only one of them set out self-government as one of the main objectives in his leaflets. That was Tom Ellis, who was elected at the age of 27 to represent Meirionnydd. In his electoral address, he identified 5 areas that he would campaign for:

  • Autonomy for Ireland
  • Disestablishment of the Anglican Church
  • A better education system
  • Amending land laws
  • Autonomy for Wales

Throughout his time as a Member of Parliament he saw three subjects – disestablishment, improving the education system, and land reform – not as individual measures, but as part of the fight for Welsh identity. Where did all this come from? He was at Aberystwyth University between 1875 and 1879. Not from there for sure, as the Principal persuaded him to join the English chapel in the town, and the main matters covered at the University’s debating society were British ones. He went to Oxford in 1879, and in his early days there he had little sympathy with the nationalist cause in Ireland. But little by little, over a period of four years, his attitudes became more radical and nationalistic.

There are many reasons for this, but let us concentrate on the fact that the ideas of Thomas Davis the Irishman and Mazzini came to his attention. As we saw earlier, Thomas Davis argued in favour of autonomy for Wales in 1846, despite being a voice in the wilderness at that time. Tom Ellis said in 1890, ‘Thomas Davis and Mazzini were my two political and nationalist teachers’.

So who was Thomas Davis? He was not one of the leading figures among the Irish national movement. Davis was rather a writer and poet, and one of the first editors of ‘The Nation’, paper of the ‘Young Ireland’ movement. ‘Young Italy’ was founded by Mazzini and his friends for Italian nationalists, and similar movements were established all over Europe. The English name for Cymru Fydd was in fact ‘Young Wales’. Davis wrote nationalist poetry, such as ‘A Nation Once Again’. He was a Protestant arguing that Protestants and Catholics should be taught together, and was in favour of Irish as the national language. His father was a Welsh doctor. He was known as a cultural nationalist, campaigning for self-government and arguing for a devolved Parliament in Dublin. It is easy to see how Davis would appeal to the young Tom Ellis, as there are romantic and cultural as well as intellectual elements to his nationalism.

Another person the young Tom Ellis encountered was the Irishman Michael Davitt. Davitt was a radical campaigner particularly on the subject of land, and was one of the founders of the Irish Land League. He was imprisoned in 1870 after being found guilty of illegal gun running. After his release he became a popular public speaker, arguing in favour of nationalising land in Ireland. Although he was a controversial figure at the time, a series of public meetings were organised for him in north Wales during the first half of 1886. Their organiser was Michael D. Jones, and a meeting was held in Blaenau Ffestiniog on 12 February. Tom Ellis welcomed the meeting in Blaenau Ffestiniog in an article in the South Wales Daily News. 3,000 listened to Davitt speak in Blaenau, where he declared that the Welsh should elect MPs who intended working together with the Irish nationalists led by Parnell, in order to reform land laws in Wales.

Davitt and Tom Ellis corresponded, both supporting greater co-operation between nationalists in Ireland and Wales. This is when Tom Ellis published a further article in the South Wales Daily News arguing in favour of self-government. ‘If Ireland secures self-government, isn’t it about time that Wales got the power to manage its own affairs?’ He supported the methods of the nationalists led by Parnell to secure their rights.

And as we have seen, Tom Ellis was the first candidate in a parliamentary election to include self-government as part of his electoral address, in 1886. But he was a very lonely voice when he was elected to Westminster that year. It was necessary to try to spread support more widely and as a result the Cymru Fydd movement was also established in 1886, and that in London. Its founders were Tom Ellis, the historian John Edward Lloyd, O.M. Edwards, Llewelyn Williams and others.

Its main aim was making the case for self-government. But there were also cultural aspects to the movement, and that was O.M. Edwards’s main interest in reality. It was a movement based outside Wales during those early years: its first branch was in London, and the second one was established in Liverpool. It was only in 1891, in Barry, that the first branch in Wales was set up, and more were then established in other parts of Wales, especially in areas where the Liberals’ party machinery was strong and where the secessionists amongst them were supportive. The first edition of the organisation’s magazine, also called Cymru Fydd, was published in 1888. Its editor was Thomas John Hughes or ‘Adfyfyr’, and he wrote the first editorial in January 1888, describing the magazine as ‘nationalist’. Initially it contained articles on the Welsh Liberals’ programme, land issues, disestablishment of the church, and improving the education system in Wales. The movement tended to stick closely to cultural and educational objectives until Tom Ellis and Lloyd George, who was elected following a Parliamentary by-election in 1890, gave it a political spin.

Between 1886 and September 1890, Tom Ellis was the main leader, arguing in favour of self-government, writing articles, delivering speeches and trying to pressurise his fellow Liberal members to follow his lead. But he faced very stony ground and was a lone voice amongst Welsh MPs. The older radical Welsh Members of Parliament, people like Henry Richard and G. Osborne Morgan, were quite content to argue the case for Disestablishment and land law reform, but were not happy to plead the case for self-government.

Tom Ellis decided he had to raise the tempo and try to prick the consciences of his fellow MPs. He went on a trip to Egypt in early 1890 where he succumbed to a period of serious illness. He was there for several months in an attempt to restore his health. In Luxor on St. David’s Day he set out in his diary the clearest sign yet of his political manifesto. Yes, it would be necessary to fight for disestablishment, a better education system and land reform. But in order to secure the nation’s unity, Wales would need its own Parliament, University and Temple.

At the end of the diary entry, at the age of 31 and aware that his health was precarious, he stated:

This is my vow today – to work until death to win Unity for Wales in the fullest sense of the word. May God give me strength to be faithful to this vow.

His quote from two stanzas of a poem by the romantic poet Shelley is an interesting one. ‘The Masque of Anarchy’ is considered to be the best political poem in the English language and was written in response to the Peterloo massacre in 1819. Two themes in Tom Ellis’ vision were ‘freedom’ and ‘unity’, and these can be seen weaving throughout Shelley’s work. When he refers to ‘Let the laws of your own land’ he recognises the right of every nation to have its own legal system, based on national sovereignty.

After Tom Ellis arrived home, and his friends in Meirionnydd realised how fragile his health was and that he was probably short of money, a testimonial was launched for him. A substantial sum of money, £1,075 (worth around £150,000 today) was raised and presented to him at a special meeting in Bala in September 1890.

In response to the presentation he delivered what his son T.I. Ellis called a ‘confession of faith’ (Cofiant II, p. 108). This was the most important and significant speech of his career as a politician. He realised that establishing a group of the Welsh Parliamentary Party in 1888 among some Members from Wales, under Henry Richard’s chairmanship, was unlikely to achieve much as there was no unity of opinion amongst them on the national question. The main themes of his speech were:

  • Referring to the History of Wales, and the nation’s decision to stand up for its freedom and independence;
  • Talking about the national awakening in the previous quarter of a century that had been strengthened since 1886;
  • That the life of a nation depends on political action;
  • That our main duty was to Wales;
  • The need for national institutions such as a University of Wales, a National Museum, a National Library;
  • Working for legislation supported by the men and women of Wales;
  • Legislation would be a symbol of our union as a nation, it would be a voice for our nationality and fill our hopes as people.

No-one else among the Members of Parliament from Wales during the 19th century had defined so clearly what were the nationalist aspirations of this new set of leaders. Indeed, neither Michael D. nor Emrys ap Iwan had described nationalist aims so succinctly.

Tom Ellis therefore set out his stall, challenging others to follow him. ‘This is where I stand, who will come with me?’.

He wasn’t expecting cheers of approval for his call, though. He said at the end of his speech: ‘This is not the ambition of all of us’.

However, a few were willing to respond to the call. One of them was Alfred Thomas, Member of Parliament for East Glamorganshire. In this period he was close to Tom Ellis and had responded enthusiastically to the speech in Bala. He proceeded, with the support of Tom Ellis, to introduce a bill in the House of Commons on 15 June 1891, the National Institutions (Wales) Bill, with the intention of establishing a Wales Office, a University of Wales, a National Museum and a National Council (Parliament). It was tabled for a first reading but got no further. It was presented a second time in February 1892 and suffered the same fate.

There were more attempts between 1892 and 1896 to rekindle the enthusiasm of Cymru Fydd, this time under the leadership of Lloyd George: the years 1894 to 1896 are the most important in this. By that time, several branches of Cymru Fydd had been established in Wales. In that period numerous efforts were made to unite the Cymru Fydd alliance with the North Wales Liberal Federation in order to obtain commonality in the debate in favour of self-government. Lloyd George and Thomas Gee drove that bid for unity, as Tom Ellis had taken a job in Gladstone’s government. The next step was to try to unite the Federation in the south and the north of Wales. There were several attempts, and a decision was made to merge them in January 1895. But not everyone was happy about the merger, and its main opponent was David Alfred Thomas, MP for Merthyr. He oscillated between supporting the aims of Cymru Fydd and opposing them, but in the end he cast his lot with the hostile faction. Although some individuals were therefore willing to join in the call for a Parliament for Wales such as Alfred Thomas, David Randell MP for Gower, Herbert Lewis MP for Flint Boroughs, and David Lloyd George, they were actually quite isolated voices.

An attempt was made to re-organise the campaign in mid-1895 by appointing Alfred Thomas MP as Chairman of the Welsh (National) Liberal Federation and Beriah Gwynfe Evans as its Secretary. However, the attachment of many south Wales representatives to the idea of a united Federation was fragile and it all ended at a meeting held in Newport in January 1896, where the representatives rejected all attempts by Lloyd George to ensure the unity of the National Federation. Robert Bird, president of the Cardiff Liberals – and the owner of a coal tar distilling company – said that south Wales Liberals would not give in to Welsh ideas!

Some historians, perhaps a little superficially, come to the simple conclusion that a rift between Welsh-speaking rural Liberals and English-speaking urban and civic Liberals was the main reason for Cymru Fydd’s failure. But as John Davies argues in A History of Wales, there is more to it than that. Yes, there was a conflict between the rural and urban, but also between the radicalism, bordering on socialism, of Tom Ellis and the young Lloyd George and the conservatism of the Liberal leaders in the cities of south Wales. Assimilation between the northern radicals and budding socialists in south Wales would have been a much easier dovetailing exercise. In the end, the attachment of Lloyd George and others to the Liberal Party was strong, and the roots of Cymru Fydd’s ideas were neither deep enough nor broad enough to attract the Liberal Party to that fold en masse. Although Cymru Fydd dragged on for a year or two following the Newport fiasco, to all intents and purposes it was all over.

Although the efforts of Cymru Fydd’s leaders failed, it must be acknowledged that until 1886 nobody at a parliamentary level had been brave enough to raise the cause of Wales in this way. Tom Ellis was seen as the intellectual leader of the movement, and Lloyd George later as its campaign leader. It must also be remembered that the Liberal Party was in opposition when Tom Ellis was first elected, and indeed it was so for the greater part of his parliamentary career. Some historians argue that that party reached its peak early in 1886, and after it lost the election that year things were never quite the same. The party got a form of second wind at the beginning of the twentieth century, but after Lloyd George stepped down from being Prime Minister in 1922 it was thereafter in the political wilderness.

To what extent, however, was the Cymru Fydd movement a bridge that led to the establishment of Plaid Cymru in 1925 – and which led to securing an Assembly in 1997 and a Senedd in 2011? And why was there such a gap between 1896 and 1925?

Looking hastily at the 30 years, more or less, between the last fiery meeting of Cymru Fydd and the founding of Plaid Cymru, a few points deserve attention. One thing that is worth noting is the Act to disestablish the Anglican Church and create the Church in Wales in 1920. It took over 70 years for that campaign to reach its climax, which shows how difficult it was to secure any substantive change through Parliament in Westminster. Of all the campaigns of Cymru Fydd’s generation, disestablishing the church and creating the University of Wales are the only two that succeeded, though certain improvements in the education system were achieved, as well as the establishment of a Welsh Department within the Board of Education in 1907 and the Welsh Health Board in 1919. O.M. Edwards was appointed Chief Inspector of Schools in Wales where he fought to ensure the teaching of Welsh language in schools. However, English was the medium of education in those schools, especially secondary schools. In this period, some national institutions were also established, such as the National Library and the National Museum.

Two names worth noting in that 30-year period are E.T. John, MP for East Denbighshire between 1910 and 1918, and J. Arthur Price. John was a keen nationalist who introduced a self-government bill in Parliament in March 1914, a bill which did not go very far. John refused to join Plaid Cymru in 1925, remaining loyal to the Labour Party after having left the Liberal Party in 1918. Despite this, J. E. Jones claims that he turned to Plaid ‘in his later years’.

  1. Arthur Price was a barrister and became a keen nationalist, writing a number of articles on Wales for the journals Y Genedl Gymreig, Welsh Outlook and Y Ddraig Goch. He wrote a very critical article on Tom Ellis, accusing him of selling his principles once he took up a Whip’s position in Gladstone’s 1892 Government. Although a High Churchman, he was very supportive of Welsh causes and corresponded with Saunders Lewis.

It should be noted that three conferences on autonomy were held in 1918, 1919 and 1922 but little came of them. A Speaker’s Conference was held on devolution in 1919 but there was little agreement on the way forward, with the Speaker supporting the establishment of Higher Councils only for Wales, Scotland and England. In 1922, a bill was introduced to establish a Legislative Parliament for Wales by Robert Thomas, MP for Wrexham, but his efforts were unsuccessful. By the way, Robert Thomas was later the MP for Anglesey.

And that brings us to the founding of the National Party of Wales in August 1925, one hundred years ago to this very month. Since the successes of Cymru Fydd were relatively small, though not completely insignificant, and the attempts to argue in favour of Welsh causes in the Westminster Parliament were generally a failure, the new party rejected engaging with British politics. Although some, including J.E Jones, saw Cymru Fydd as a preparatory movement, others saw the need to distance themselves from the failures of that movement.

Saunders Lewis intended to show such distance by arguing that all links with British political parties should be severed. In Saunders’s opinion, nothing would come to Wales through the English Parliament. Lewis Valentine said ‘Some insist that the new party is synonymous with the old Liberal Party in a new form. But it cannot be denied more strongly than to say that there is absolutely no connection between it and the old parties’. D. J. Williams believed the new party should not express views on discussions in Westminster, saying ‘I am of the opinion that the Party should not interfere at all in the affairs of the English Parliament’. And as I have already mentioned, Griffith John Williams said ‘It was essential to establish a Welsh Political Party’. The early ‘Sinn Fein-ist’ position of the new Party therefore was that a seat in Westminster should not be taken, should they win an election.

However, as elements of realpolitik penetrated the Party’s consciousness after the 1929 election – when Lewis Valentine’s candidacy attracted 609 votes – the policy of isolation began to loosen its grip and party members insisted that it would be necessary to go to Westminster and accept that Parliament as a platform to debate the Welsh cause. And more mixed feelings towards Cymru Fydd’s efforts started to appear. Lewis Valentine originally dismissed the efforts of people like Tom Ellis in the early days of Plaid Cymru, and that quite deliberately. A real distance had to be created in order to justify the argument in favour of establishing a new political party, and that’s what we would have done too I feel sure. But as things settled, the views of some of the early members changed. Lewis Valentine reviewed a booklet published by Plaid Cymru in 1956, namely Triwyr Penllyn. The booklet contained three chapters on the contributions of Michael D. Jones, O. M. Edwards and Tom Ellis to Welsh life. The authors were Gwenallt, Saunders Lewis and Gwenan Jones. Gwenan Jones by the way was the first woman to stand in a general election on behalf of Plaid Cymru. Lewis Valentine says about the book that it is one ‘to put a bit of iron in the blood and a bit of steel in our spine’ in the fight against the drowning of Capel Celyn.

When Gwynfor Evans was chosen as Plaid Cymru’s candidate in Meirionnydd at the 1945 election, he saw himself in the lineage of Michael D Jones, R.J. Derfel and Tom Ellis. Y Dydd, a weekly paper in the Dolgellau area, made a comparison between Tom Ellis and Gwynfor, describing them as ‘Two young men with a gentle and loving spirit but nevertheless strong.’ Llwyd o’r Bryn compared Gwynfor’s stance on Capel Celyn as being like Tom Ellis’s for the ‘martyrs’ of the Tithe War. But to give a measured view of Gwynfor’s own opinion about Tom Ellis, he says in ‘Aros Mae’:

This (his decision to take up a post in Gladstone’s government) was the single act that did most to stop the development of an independent Welsh party, and therefore hinder the movement for self-government.

He then said:

It is easy to blame Tom Ellis now, but we must remember that Welsh nationalism was only young at the time, and that it was reasonable for him to believe that great gains could be made for Wales through working within the system.

So what do we now claim was the connection between the Cymru Fydd movement and the founding of Plaid Cymru at that meeting in Pwllheli on 5 August 1925, a hundred years ago this week? Considering the words of those who were at Pwllheli in 1925, very little. Their intention, at that time, was to create as much of a gap as possible between themselves and the leaders of Cymru Fydd. Otherwise, how could they justify establishing an independent Welsh party and the original policy of refusing to do anything with the Westminster Parliament? As far as I can see, Saunders Lewis did not change his opinion about Cymru Fydd at all in his lifetime.

But as things developed, and Plaid Cymru became a constitutional political party, the position began to change. If we take the words of J. E Jones, Lewis Valentine in 1956 and Gwynfor himself, they accepted that the establishment of Cymru Fydd in 1886, the first movement in centuries to argue for self-government for Wales, for creating Welsh institutions and increasing national awareness among the Welsh, had created the circumstances in which a Welsh party could then be established in the twentieth century. Given that Cymru Fydd’s hold on the nation was a fragile one, and that a relatively small number of Liberal Members of Parliament actually supported it – no more than about 5 at most – it was no wonder it failed.

But at least the discussion had started, and learning the lessons of Cymru Fydd’s failure was one of Plaid Cymru’s main objectives. It was a party with its loyalty to Wales and no connection to British parties. Although its growth was gradual, what is remarkable about it is that it has maintained its existence for a century and is now, according to some opinion polls, within reach of heading the Welsh Government for the first time.

Would Plaid Cymru have been established in 1925 if Cymru Fydd had not started the discussion? An impossible question to answer of course. All I wish to say is that the ideology and influence of Cymru Fydd helped crystallise the early philosophy of Plaid Cymru, and created the space for a new party to develop. And the failure of Cymru Fydd gave it the proof that the only way forward was establishing a fully independent party.

Launch of new book ‘Dros Gymru’n Gwlad’

“Dros Gymru’n Gwlad – Hanes Sefydlu Plaid Cymru”.

On 17 July 2025 the authors Arwel Vittle and Gwen Gruffudd came to the Pierhead Building to discuss with Karl Davies their new book about the establishment of the National Party of Wales.   The event was sponsored by Mabon ap Gwynfor AS and organised by  Plaid Cymru History Society.

Here is an opportunity to listen to this very interesting discussion about the start of Plaid Cymru in the period leading up to 1925.

Thank you to Senedd Cymru for providing the record.

Book Launch

“Dros Gymru’n Gwlad – Hanes Sefydlu Plaid Cymru”.

Pierhead Building, Cardiff Bay. 17 July 2025 6.30pm – 9pm

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Come to hear Arwel Vittle and Gwen Gruffudd discussing their new book with Karl Davies in an event sponsored by Mabon ap Gwynfor MS and organised by Plaid Cymru History Society, with an opportunity to buy the book signed by them. There is no entrance fee but you must reserve a place beforehand through Eventbrite . Proceedings will be in Welsh and simultaneous translation will be available.

 

 

 

Book Launch – The Politics of Co-Opposition

A new book by John Osmond was launched at a fringe meeting of Plaid Cymru Annual Conference in Cardiff on 12 October 2024.

Sound archive of the launch meeting –

Martin Shipton discussing the book with John Osmond
 
The Politics of Co-Opposition reveals how a completely new form of political engagement in the British Isles – the 2021-24 Co-operation Agreement between Plaid Cymru and Welsh Labour – created history and provided the major part of the Welsh Government’s policy programme for over three years.

John Osmond, who was involved in negotiating the Agreement as Special Adviser to Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price, provides an insider’s account of the political background to the Agreement – including a fascinating week-by-week diary of Price’s first 100 days – how it was finalised and the compromises that were made to achieve it.

Essential reading for politicians, political journalists, students and political scientists globally, the Co-operation Agreement, termed by academics as ‘Contract Parliamentarianism’, drew on non-coalition precedents in Sweden, New Zealand and Malaysia. It resulted in significant measures being introduced across 46 policy areas such as: free school meals for all primary school pupils, expanding free childcare to all two-year-olds, action on the second homes crisis blighting rural Wales, and reforming the Senedd (the Welsh Parliament) including a 60% increase in Senedd Members – from 60 to 96 – and a fully proportional electoral system from 2026.

Brought to a premature end in May 2024 by Plaid Cymru as the result of the controversial internal election of the new Labour leader which resulted in the implosion of his short-lived government, The Politics of Co-Opposition is a fascinating and candid account of how innovative politicians co-operated on key mutually-agreed policies while maintaining their positions as government and opposition.

 

Price: £19.99 
Publisher: Welsh Academic Press
Publish Date: 10 October 2024
EAN/UPC: 9781860571688

Richard Wyn Jones Lecture at the 2024 Eisteddfod

 
From Future Wales to Plaid Cymru
O Gymru Fydd i Blaid Cymru
 
 
At the Societies Tent,  Eisteddfod Rhondda Cynon Taf, Pontypridd on Thursday, 8 August Professor Richard Wyn Jones gave a lecture in Welsh. 
 
On the eve of Plaid Cymru’s 100th anniversary, he considered the differences and similarities between the Blaid and the nationalist movement that preceded it, namely  Cymru Fydd (Future Wales).
 

The Plaid Cymru History Society lecture, Pontypridd National Eisteddfod 2024

From Cymru Fydd to Plaid Cymru

Richard Wyn Jones[1]

Director of the Wales Governance Centre, Cardiff University.

Firstly, may I thank the Plaid Cymru History Society for its invitation to deliver this lecture; Eluned Bush for organising everything so efficiently; and of course you the audience as well, for having decided to come by the Societies Tent today!

***

I was advised some time ago now that no-one should ever start a lecture or a speech with an apology or an excuse. Better to go confidently straight into the content, however thin the material which is about to be covered…! I’m certain that that is sound advice. In spite of that however, given my current position, I feel it would be right of me to ignore it just this once.

You see, my original intention was to spend most of the months of June and July researching and then writing this lecture, that would represent the first step in the process of my writing a new book. Unfortunately, Mr Sunak decided that it was not going to be like that. And to be honest, Mr Gething did not really help matters either, did he!?

So the truth is that I have spent far less time reading and thinking about and writing what follows than I had intended. Consequently, this will be a taste of the argument I wish to develop, rather than the argument in its entirety. Despite all that, I hope there will be something here of interest and enough, indeed, to whet your appetite for more…

***

Let me start by setting out some of the context… As I explained, this lecture will be a stepping stone to the writing of a chapter in my new book. That book will complete a trilogy of works which discuss different aspects of Plaid Cymru’s ideology. (By the way, the trilogy will have been published by the University of Wales Press, and as someone who has had works published by highly respected academic publishers in England and the United States, I would like to underline how fortunate we are to have a publisher here in Wales which is better than all those others…).

The first of the three volumes, Rhoi Cymru’n Gyntaf: Syniadaeth Plaid Cymru, Cyfrol 1, was published back in 2007, and an English translation of it will appear from the presses in October this year – at last!!! The second tome, Y Blaid Ffasgaidd yng Nghymru: Plaid Cymru a’r Cyhuddiad o Ffasgaeth appeared in 2013 with an English translation, The Fascist party in Wales? Plaid Cymru, Welsh nationalism and the accusation of Fascism, published the following year. And now at last I am working diligently on the third and final book, namely Rhoi Cymru’n Gyntaf: Syniadaeth Plaid Cymru, Cyfrol 2.

My intention is to start that third book in the trilogy – Volume 2! – with a comparison between Plaid Cymru and the nearest thing it had as a predecessor, which is the Cymru Fydd movement; that political movement which was a true force in the life of Wales for a period towards the end of the nineteenth century. A movement which is associated with names which remain famous – sometimes infamous – like Tom Ellis, David Lloyd George and O.M. Edwards, along with others who are rather forgotten these days such as Beriah Gwynfe Evans, Ellis Jones Griffith and that fascinating couple, Herbert and Ruth Lewis.

There are a number of reasons why I believe that setting out a comparison of this kind is worthwhile. I want to note three of those reasons, even though there will not be an opportunity to discuss them in full this afternoon.

  • The least important of these reasons in terms of the book itself, which is ultimately a study of Plaid Cymru not Cymru Fydd, is that I feel that the phenomenon of Cymru Fydd (and boy, what a phenomenon!) has not received its just deserts in the history books. As we shall see in a minute, that partly reflects the fact that interpretations and understanding of the second wave of Welsh nationalism – the wave which formed and then was in turn nurtured by Plaid Cymru – have to an extent damaged our understanding of the first wave of nationalism embodied in the Cymru Fydd movement. Cymru Fydd merits rather more rounded consideration than it has tended to receive in the past. Luckily, recent works by academics such as Dewi Rowland Hughes and Hazel Walford Davies have started to provide such consideration. And I vouch that there is yet more to say on that subject.
  • On top of all that, as part of the wider study of Plaid Cymru’s ideology, Cymru Fydd and the first wave of Welsh nationalism demands attention because understanding the reasons why Cymru Fydd and the whole movement’s inheritance was rejected by the founders and earliest supporters of Plaid Cymru enables us to understand better their political beliefs – and crucially, I imagine, the origins of those beliefs.
  • Lastly – and here my thoughts are at their most nascent and uncertain – I have a feeling that understanding the differences and the similarities between Cymru Fydd and Plaid Cymru is also a means of shedding light on aspects of contemporary Welsh politics. Specifically, it is a means of us understanding better the relationship between the Plaid Cymru of our day and the Welsh nationalist wing of the Labour Party in Wales.

I hardly need to remind you how central this relationship has been to the development of Welsh politics over the past 25 years and more. Since the new voting system for our national Senedd to be introduced by 2026 will make coalitions pretty much an inevitability, that relationship is likely to continue. And is there a better comparator for the pro-Welsh wing of the Labour Party than Cymru Fydd?

As is the case with Cymru Fydd historically, the supporters of that wing of the Labour Party believe that the institutional and economic foundations of the Welsh nation are better set through the British state, and that Welsh and British national identities can not only live side-by-side comfortably but also mutually strengthen and elevate each other.

As with Cymru Fydd, they also believe that it is by yoking the Welsh national cause to the success of a big British party that such benefits can be achieved. In their estimation, the danger of distancing yourself from the British party set-up is irrelevance and losing the chance to influence matters.

It can hardly be denied that they have been supremely successful in their efforts in all of this, too.

Yet still, as with the example of Cymru Fydd’s torch-bearers, the small ‘n’ nationalists in the Labour Party have also discovered time after time that the big British parties are ‘broad churches’, and that some of their most  uncompromising and effective enemies are to be found co-existing in the same party as them. And then, even should they win the internal battles in their own party, the state itself proves that it is not always as flexible as they have imagined it to be.

What then are the implications for Plaid Cymru of imagining their ‘enemies’ but, also, their unavoidable allies on the Welsh wing of the Labour Party, as being the latest revelation of Cymru Fydd in the very different political situation which now exists, a hundred and thirty years since that movement was at its peak?

So there you have some of the reasons for believing that it is worth comparing Cymru Fydd with Plaid Cymru – and specifically the ideas that were associated with them – more systematically than has been done in the past.

***

Clearly, we have time to do no more than lift the corner of the curtain on all of that in this lecture. As a starting point let us look at Cymru Fydd’s existence and its ideas before considering how the founders and some of the later supporters of Plaid Cymru went about interpreting their predecessors’ story.

  1. Understanding Cymru Fydd

An Eisteddfod audience tends to be a particularly knowledgeable one and I’m pretty sure that there will be people in this tent who know a great deal (a great deal more than me!) about Cymru Fydd’s history. But beyond those well-informed individuals, to the extent that many who are interested in Welsh politics are at all aware of that history, I suppose that the meeting which is considereed to have led to the ending of Cymru Fydd is the only part of the story that will be generally known. That was the infamous meeting of the South Wales Liberal Federation held in Newport in January 1896, when Robert Bird – President of the Cardiff Liberal Association – stood up and declared ‘There are from Swansea to Newport, thousands upon thousands of Englishmen, as true Liberals as yourselves…who will never submit to the domination of Welsh ideas’.

Some may also be aware of the response of the Member of Parliament for Carnarvon Boroughs, David Lloyd George, to what happened in Newport. ‘Are the multitudes of the Welsh nation’, he thundered, ‘going to accept being lorded over by a coalition of English capitalists who come to Wales, not to raise up the common people, but to make their fortune?’. I’ll let John Davies (Bwlchllan) complete the anecdote in his own incomparable way:

‘Yes they are’ was the answer to his rhetorical question, because although examples of attacks on capitalism could be found in Wales, it was not in the nation’s name that it was being challenged. The Newport meeting proved the death knell for Cymru Fydd. More meetings were convened in 1897 and 1898, but there was little conviction to be found at them; by the turn of the century the movement had disappeared.

Like the storied comet, Cymru Fydd happened and then was gone.

But if that is the most familiar part of the movement’s story by far, let me add a few vignettes which might show Cymru Fydd and the first wave of Welsh nationalism in a slightly less well-known light:

  1. A public meeting was held in Blaenau Ffestiniog in 1886, organised by Michael D Jones and Pan Jones, with Michael Davitt speaking on the issue of land rights. Davitt was an Irish revolutionary – a member of the Irish Republican Brotherhood – who had already been imprisoned on various occasions by the British state and, at the time, was one of the leading lights of the Irish Land League. Amongst the other speakers was the young lawyer David Lloyd George. The story goes that Davitt strongly encouraged Lloyd George after the meeting to pursue a career in politics. And so it came to pass …

This was not the only time that Welsh nationalists of the period came into contact with the most militant wing within Irish nationalism – a minority wing at the time, of course. There is another tale of T.E. Ellis travelling to a public meeting in Ireland where some of those present were killed by members of the crown’s armed forces.

  1. Exactly one hundred and thirty years ago – in 1894 – four of Wales’s most nationalistic Liberal Members of Parliament went ‘on strike’ as part of what was called at the time the ‘Welsh Insurrection’. The four were:
    • David Lloyd George;
    • Herbert Lewis, Member of Parliament for Flint Boroughs;
    • A. Thomas, Member of Parliament for Merthyr Tydfil and later Viscount Rhondda, and one of those who contributed to emasculating Cymru Fydd as a political force partly because of personal animosity towards David Lloyd George (though the two of them made it up later); and,
    • Frank Edwards, Member of Parliament for Radnorshire and later a Member of the House of Lords.

Their main gripe was that the Liberal Government of the day, under the leadership of arch-imperialist Earl Rosebery, had decided to postpone acting on disestablishment of the Anglican Church in Wales. For a period the four ‘rebels’ spoke at public meetings throughout Wales and it would appear received strong support. That was before the rebellion came to an end, and that at least partly (as might be expected) because of T.E. Ellis’s efforts, who was by then a Liberal whip.

It cannot be denied that ‘disestablishment’ was the main Welsh-specific matter on the political agenda in Wales in the mid-1890s. As we live in an age which is not only wholly secular but one in which dealing with Wales as an administrative entity has become a routine matter, it is easy to underestimate how far-reaching were the implications of this call. And that not merely from a spiritual standpoint but also in terms of its constitutional significance; through ensuring disestablishing the state church, this was a sign that Wales, seemingly so fully assimilated, was yet a separate unit to England after all. But it is worth noting the fact that this was not the only reform that the first wave of Welsh nationalists were requesting….

A sense of the broader agenda can be gleaned from one of the cartoons included in the novel Dafydd Dafis – a novel written by Cymru Fydd’s General Secretary, Beriah Gwynfe Evans, and published in 1898; a novel which reveals a lot in terms of the politics of the period, even if it is frankly unreadable. 

Along with Disestablishment and Disendowment, it notes the following as aspirations:

  • Reform of burial laws
  • A Welsh Education Office
  • Reforming land laws
  • Local choice (right to veto), and
  • Self-government for Wales

One could add to this list.

In a famous speech in Bala in 1890 the Member of Parliament for Merionethshire, T.E. (Tom) Ellis, had argued that the last of these, self-government – establishing a ‘Law-making Assembly’ for Wales – was (or should be) the intellectual link connecting the different elements of the Welsh national policy programme. And indeed, when the first list of goals for Cymru Fydd was drawn up in a meeting in London three years earlier (NB: as with so many other national movements in Europe in the nineteenth century, exiles were central to the development of the first wave of Welsh nationalism), it was noted very clearly:

That the main objective of the association will be ensuring creation of a Legislative Assembly, to discuss Welsh matters.

Whilst reading Thomas Jones’s autobiographical writings in his volume Leeks and Daffodils, we see how normal it was to debate and support self-government for Wales in the decade that came after Ellis’s speech. It is enlightening too to see how important was the influence of Irish nationalism among nationalistic circles in the Wales of the 1890s. According to Jones, ‘Home Rule for Ireland was constantly under discussion…I bought and read the essays and poems of Thomas Davis.’. The discussion on Welsh home rule – self-government – was literally happening side-by-side with discussions on Irish home rule.

The significance of these comments is underlined when we remember Jones’s role – as Lloyd George’s right-hand man – in the process of dividing Ireland through the Government of Ireland Act 1920 and then the Anglo-Irish Treaty 1921. It is worth remembering too that, at precisely the same time that Leeks and Daffodils was published – 1942 – Jones was central to the efforts to blacken Plaid Cymru’s name as a party which had fascist sympathies.

  1. Lastly, let us tarry a little to look more closely at Herbert Lewis. The first wave of Welsh nationalism had no more constant or effective a champion than him. He was the first chairman of Flint County Council in 1889 before becoming Member of Parliament for Flint Boroughs in 1892, then Flintshire itself in 1906, and ultimately holder of the University of Wales’s seat in the House of Commons from 1918. He was one of the architects of the intermediate school structure in Wales, and through his role as parliamentary secretary for the Education Board he played a central part in shaping the famous Education Act of 1918 – ‘the Fisher Act’. Alongside his characteristic emphasis on educational matters, it is worth noting that Lewis played a central part – perhaps the central part – in the process of making sure that the British state shouldered the financial burden for maintaining the Welsh national institutions that were successfully created in this period, in particular the National Library and National Museum. As part of that, he was the one who ensured that the Library in Aberystwyth would become a copyright library.

His second wife, Ruth Herbert Lewis, was one of the main benefactors of Cymdeithas Alawon Gwerin Cymru (the Welsh Folk Song Society) and a collector of folk songs. I must admit that I was not aware that it was she who collected ‘Hwp, ha wen! / Cadi ha, Morus stowt / Dros yr uchle’n neidio / Hwp, dyna fo! / A chynffon buwch a chynffon llo / A chynffon Richard Parri go / Hwp, dyna fo!’, a lovely nonsense song I often sang with my children a few years ago, as well as the splendid plygain carol ‘O! Deued pob Cristion / i Fethlehem yr awron’. Somebody will have won the Lady Ruth Herbert Lewis Memorial Prize this week at the Rhondda Cynon Taf National Eisteddfod.

T.E. Ellis’s widow, Annie Jane, was another of the benefactors of Cymdeithas Alawon Gwerin Cymru. As Annie Jane Hughes Griffiths, she became President of the Welsh League of Nations Union and led the deputation that would take the Welsh Women’s Peace Appeal to the USA in 1924. As another indicator of the commitment of this first wave of Welsh nationalists to high brow Welsh culture – as well as to more populist culture – it is worth reminding ourselves that T.E. Ellis himself was editing the works of the mystic Morgan Llwyd for publication at the time of his premature death.

There is a whole lot more that could be said about the activities, the personalities, and the various ideas connected to Cymru Fydd. But there are three particular points I wish to draw attention to in relation to the current discussion.

Firstly, it is essential to emphasise time and again that the evidence points to the fact that the vast majority of Cymru Fydd members and supporters considered the British state and Britishness not as enemies to Wales and Welshness, but rather – given appropriate revision – as the means to ensure and promote Welsh national aspirations. Note that that was true even before the great imperialist fever of the 1890s took hold of Wales, as it did the rest of these islands.

The reforms that they desired were (i) establishing a legislative parliament for Wales, and for that to be (ii) part of a broader process of ensuring  acknowledgement that Wales had a place as one of the nations which composed Great Britain. One aspect of this acknowledgement – the negative aspect, in a way – was to make sure that the state acknowledged the realities of Welsh spiritual life by disestablishing and disendowing the state church of England in Wales. The more affirmative action taken was to create Welsh civic institutions to mirror the pattern of such institutions which already existed in the three other constituent parts of the state and transferring the costs of running them to the British Treasury.

Secondly, when contemplating the reality of the British party system, this in its turn meant that Welsh nationalist desires were closely bound to the Liberal Party’s prospects. That would have still been true even if Alderman Bird – under D.A. Thomas’s influence – had failed in his efforts to stop the unification of the liberal federations of north and south Wales desired by Cymru Fydd in that infamous Newport meeting. Even if the proposed political unity had succeeded in becoming a Welsh and more prominent version of the Irish Parliamentary Party – which, no doubt, was Lloyd George’s wish – the fact that English politics (from 1886 onwards, at least) was thoroughly unionist, and its elected representatives withstood every effort to make Welsh national desires real, meant that it was only in those periods when the Liberals were in power that meaningful reforms could hope to be won.

Even though the fact is acknowledged very rarely, this is one of the main reasons why the decade between 1895 and 1905 was such an unprofitable one for Welsh nationalists. With the unionists – the  Tories – in an alliance with the unionist wing of the Liberals – in power in London throughout that period, the opportunities for the first wave of Welsh nationalists to influence things were few and far between. For the same reason, it was a thin time for Irish nationalists and that despite their complete domination of electoral politics in Ireland. Indeed, things remained difficult even after the huge Liberal victory in the 1906 election. In that parliament the Liberals’ majority was so large that the Celtic fringe nationalists lost any bargaining power – quite simply, they were not needed. It is a non-Conservative government in London with a small majority which is perfect for those outside England who wish to win concessions for the fringe nations (a lesson for us all in 2024, perhaps?!)

And so to my third point, and maybe my most controversial one, which is to note how similar the first wave of Welsh nationalism was to mainstream Irish nationalism in the same period. They were alike not only in their dependence on the success (and as seen above, the extent of that success) of the Liberal Party. By the time Cymru Fydd was formed, they were also far more similar ideologically than we tend to acknowledge these days. Welsh people of the period understood that clearly enough – remember Thomas Jones’s memoirs which I referred to earlier. But since we now look at Irish nationalism through the prism of the Easter Rising 1916 and all that came in its wake, we have tended to forget, or mis-remember, what came before.

Take John Redmond as an example. He was one of the main leaders of Irish nationalism after Parnell’s death in 1891 and, as leader of the united Irish Parliamentary Party, he was without doubt the main man between 1900 and 1918. Redmond believed one could and should satisfy the wishes of Irish nationalists through the British state; moreover, he wanted full status for Ireland within the British Empire. With the Liberals dependent on his party’s votes after the 1910 election, Redmond succeeded to get the Government of Ireland Act passed, which received royal approval in 1914. As is now known, it   proved to be a pyrrhic victory since the Act was not implemented in the end because of – amongst other things – the Great War, the solidarity between parts of the British army and the Conservative Party, and the Easter Rising. In the same year of 1914, and under exactly the same conditions, the law which would disestablish the Anglican Church in Wales also received its royal assent.

Deliverance through the British state; ensuring that the existing national identity took its place honourably as part of the national inheritance of a broader Britishness: these were the foundations of the nationalist credo and constitutional ideas of both John Redmond and of T.E. Ellis – and David Lloyd George too, for that matter. Whatever their other differences, here was the common ground between mainstream Irish nationalism at the end of the nineteenth and beginning of the twentieth centuries, and the beliefs of the first wave of Welsh nationalists.

  1. Plaid Cymru’s interpretation of Cymru Fydd

As I suggested, historians have not been kind to Cymru Fydd. There are perhaps a range of reasons for this. For one thing, there has been a tendency to deal with the movement’s history as if it was a sort of first dish to taste quite quickly before moving on to the main course. On the part of historians of contemporary Wales, that main course – quite naturally – is the growth and then the dominance of the Labour movement and party. In the case of those many historians who have concentrated on David Lloyd George’s story, the main course is the central role that the ‘Welsh Wizard’ had in the massacres of the Great War or in cementing the basis of the welfare state in Britain or in the story of dividing the island of Ireland and creating the Irish Free State oror… You get my point!

If you turn to those types of work with an eye on what they have to say specifically about Cymru Fydd, you can often sense the authors’ keenness to leap ahead to the other matters which they are really interested in. It is also unfortunate that the only (?) book published in the twentieth century which focussed especially on Cymru Fydd’s history – William George’s book of the same title, published in 1945 – is confused in parts while also coming across as an attempt to save the reputation of the author’s big brother, namely David Lloyd George of course.

But this in turn raises a significant question: why in the world would the younger brother who had been a great support to his elder brother feel there was a need to do such a thing as to save face, when the boy from Llanystumdwy had gone on to lead the largest and most powerful empire in the history of humanity? This brings us neatly to another factor which has had a great impact on the historical memory of Cymru Fydd and that, very simply, is the contempt that the second wave of Welsh nationalists showed towards it – and especially their utter disdain towards David Lloyd George.

In his biography of Lewis Valentine, Arwel Vittle depicts the rift between the older generation of Welsh nationalists and the younger generation who would go on to set up Plaid Cymru, including its first President:  

Cymru Fydd’s failure was seared into the minds of many young patriots, seen as being based on the betrayal of its leaders who pursued the advancement of their own careers in Westminster at the expense of their nationalism. This was personified most strongly in the person of Lloyd George himself, who had been such an idol for Samuel Valentine’s generation, but who was now seen as an arch-imperialist by his son.

One could make a long list of examples where second wave Welsh nationalists were scathing in their criticism of the first wave, and that – by now – for over a century. It is clear that such an attitude has also influenced many of those who have written about the main figures connected to Plaid Cymru. As one instance, Arwel Vittle himself states that what Cymru Fydd represented was ‘Loyal Britishness wrapped up in the dress of tearful Welshness’.

Saunders Lewis was withering in his judgement. He ascribes the movement’s failure to the purported fact that ‘Cymru was what was missing from the Cymru Fydd movement’.[2] And again, ‘To speak in rough terms… Cymru Fydd’s liberals neither knew nor understood Cymru’s past.’[3] When considering some of the names associated with the movement, including J.E. Lloyd, this was very rough speaking! Yet according to one of Saunders Lewis’s biographers, D. Tecwyn Lloyd, if one set aside self-governance, there was nothing Welsh-specific among the reforms supported by Cymru Fydd’s members. Rather, they were nothing more alternative than ‘means by which to improve and increase and make more effective the contribution of Wales to Britain and its world-wide Empire’.[4] More than this, by the first decade of the twentieth century, ‘the talk and discussion about Wales’s exceptionality’ by politicians like Lloyd George ‘was no more than a playful excuse for seeking personal promotion’.

But perhaps it is the following anecdote which best reflects the attitudes of the second wave of nationalists towards their predecessors. In the September 1929 edition of The Scots Independent newspaper there is an article by Lewis Spence, Vice-Chairman of the National Party of Scotland – the SNP’s forerunner – recording the story of his visit to Plaid Genedlaethol Cymru’s Summer School, held that year in Pwllheli. He relates the tale of the bus journey organised for attendees to see a bit of the environs, noting that the passengers booed and hooted as the charabanc went past Lloyd George’s birthplace! Scarcely believed that one of Plaid Cymru’s own publications would have included such a childish – if amusing – tale, as it would have caused more of a fuss and trouble than it was worth. But it does offer an interesting and quite significant insight into the world view of members of the still young Plaid Cymru.

Of course the older generation knew full well about the attitude of the younger generation, and – as you might expect – did not take kindly to such a lack of respect towards their elders. A rather plaintive take on this came from Beriah Gwynfe Evans in the South Wales Daily News when he complained of the manner in which one heard ‘De Valera compared and contrasted with Lloyd George, to the latter’s disadvantage’. Now it is important to recognise that Evans’s decision to personalise Irish nationalism of that era into the form of Éamon de Valera was intentionally controversial. At the time – September 1923 – ‘Dev’ had just lost an ugly civil war against the majority faction in Sinn Fein and that part of the Free State’s population which was in favour of the Anglo-Irish Treaty. In fact, he had just been incarcerated in Kilmainham – a location that will be familiar to many of you. It would be a further 18 months before he set about forming Fianna Faíl and finally turned his back on the most uncompromising and militant views among those that he had espoused during the civil war.

But by depersonalising the comment made by Cymru Fydd’s former Secretary, the point remains a fair one. Members of the second wave of Welsh nationalism did judge the first wave through comparing them with those Irish nationalists who incited the Easter Rising and who succeeded in bringing freedom to the greater part of Ireland. And verily they thought that a comparison of that sort favoured the Irish version over the Welsh version. Which brings us to the third part of my lecture, on the influence of Ireland – and specifically, the influence of Sinn Feín – on the early Plaid Genedlaethol.

  1. Sinn Féin’s influence on the second wave of Welsh nationalism

There is nothing new or original in highlighting the influence that events in Ireland post-1916 had on the early Plaid Genedlaethol Cymru. I will not try to go after those various aspects, either. There is far too much to cover to do justice to the whole issue – from the brave stance taken by Lewis Valentine and his fellow students in Bangor, to personal meetings in Ireland between, for example, D.J. Williams and Arthur Griffith and Michael Collins (in 1919) and, later, between Saunders Lewis and De Valera (1925). By the way, Saunders was memorably contemptuous of Dev – ‘He’s one of those types  with a drunken mind, bombastic, unsystematic…’ – but that should not surprise us because Plaid’s leader was strongly supportive of the Treatyites in the Irish Civil War. On that basis, we should not expect him to have any fellow feeling with Dev in  the summer of 1925. By 1938, however, with De Valera by then well respected and an uncompromising enemy of the republican ‘extremists’, Lewis had changed his tune and acknowledged Dev to be one of the world’s greatest leaders…

Rather than overusing quotations and examples, let me note the words of J.E. Jones, General Secretary and Organiser of Plaid Cymru between 1930 and 1962(!). ‘There is no doubt,’ he said

that Ireland was the greatest stimulus and inspiration for nationalism in Wales in our time… After the 1914-18 war,…there were a number of Welsh soldiers in the English army in Ireland who saw and understood the oppression there; sympathy grew towards Ireland, and that despite Lloyd George’s propaganda. Then Ireland won its freedom in 1921: the very first country in the whole empire to win it… It was through books that the Irish heroes became known and an encouragement for many of us in Wales… Thomas Davis’s ballads from the middle of the last century were familiar to a number of us…and the romantic hero Michael Collins… It was in Ireland too that H.R. Jones [Plaid Cymru’s first Secretary] got his greatest encouragement: he went there many times…. Ireland continued to be the shining light for very many in Plaid Cymru until the 1939-45 War even. A proof of that was the constant demand for books on the Irish struggles and their heroes in that time, and we used to sell such books by the hundred from Plaid Cymru’s Caernarfon office.

To avoid any uncertainty, it should be pointed out that part of Lloyd George’s cardinal sin in the eyes of the second wave of nationalists was the part he played firstly in standing against – and then diluting – Ireland’s ‘freedom’.

The point I wish to add to this familiar picture is that it was not only the actions and the ‘spirit’ of the Sinn Feiners which were inspirations in Wales. We have rather lost sight of the fact that the main ideas of the preppy Plaid Genedlaethol were also orthodoxly Sinn Fein-ist. The influence of Sinn Fein’s ideology could be seen not only among the grass roots membership, but also on its most important leader, namely Saunders Lewis.

A lot of ink has been spilt on efforts to prove the impact of various thinkers on Saunders Lewis’s beliefs. You have the deservedly well-known essay by Dafydd Glyn Jones on Lewis’s politics which discusses the influences of different French thinkers on his thoughts, or the efforts of D. Tecwyn Lloyd to prove the input of  Hilaire Belloc, the Anglo-French Catholic philosopher. More recently, Robin Chapman has concentrated attention on the claimed influence of ‘two English social critics whose names have since been forgotten’ – Arthur Joseph Penty and Montague Edward Fordham.

But in terms of his political ideas at least, I surmise that the reality was a little more prosaic. Put simply, Saunders Lewis was a pupil of Arthur Griffith. Or to express it in slightly less provocative terms – Arthur Griffith’s main political views which he had popularised through the Sinn Fein movement tallied so closely with the views which were cherished later by Saunders Lewis that one can but conclude that the former had hugely influenced the latter, whether directly or indirectly. This can be seen by close reading of the political programme of Arthur Griffith and Sinn Fein and comparing it with the political programme adopted by the early Plaid Genedlaethol under Saunders Lewis’s influence.

Griffith believed that there would be no lifeline for Ireland’s predicament through the British state – neither from its political parties nor its other political institutions. It was instead essential to divest oneself of them and concentrate on acting at the level of the island of Ireland only. That meant that no-one elected in Sinn Fein’s name to the House of Commons should take their seat there (absentionism). Instead, the local governmental infrastructure in Ireland itself should be used as a platform for building up Irish politics and, indeed, the alternative Irish state inside the shell of the British state.

This was precisely the vision and policy followed by the cub Plaid Genedlaethol too. Only after the failure of Plaid Cymru’s campaign in the Arfon constituency at the 1929 general election was its policy of engaging with Westminster changed. (We should note that, at the time, 609 votes was considered a dreadful failure, even if Dafydd Iwan has charmed contemporary nationalists into thinking differently about it!) And the unstinting efforts of Saunders Lewis’s closest allies were required to force it to accept the change in policy. There is in fact plenty of evidence to suggest that his instincts remained absentionist throughout his lifetime.

Economic arguments were central to the political creed of Arthur Griffith, and economic self-sufficiency one of his big ideas. Let us be clear that this was not the economic credo of the the first wave of Welsh nationalists, but that had changed by the time the second wave had crested. There was without doubt more than one influence at work in ensuring this change. But the beliefs of Irish nationalists – the advanced nationalists influenced by Griffith – were key to it. One can in fact read the notorious ‘10 policy points’ set out by Saunders Lewis as an orthodox re-stating of the economic and social ideas embraced across the rift caused by the Irish civil war.

The constitutional ideas held by Saunders Lewis and the early Plaid Genedlaethol were also remarkably similar to those of Arthur Griffith – someone who was, of course, one of the supporters of the Anglo-Irish Treaty. So when Plaid Cymru published its plan for for the constitutional future of Wales at the turn of the 1930s, it was made perfectly clear that the Irish Free State was the model that Wales should try to emulate. And it was therefore ‘dominion status’ rather than full independence that was to be pursued. By remembering  the stand (controversial, to some) Saunders Lewis made about royalty, it is worth remembering that Arthur Griffith himself backed continuation of the link between the Free State and royalty, on the basis of the type of ‘double monarchy’ found in the Austro-Hungarian empire.

But at the same time as desiring continuing links with the the British state and Crown, it is important to underline that Arthur Griffith and Sinn Fein on one hand, and Saunders Lewis and Plaid Genedlaethol Cymru on the other, were all uncompromising anti-imperialists. This was in fact one of the fundamental differences between – in Ireland – the main stream of nationalism embodied in the Irish Parliamentary Party and the ‘advanced nationalists’ of Sinn Féin. In Wales as well this was perhaps the most striking difference between the first wave of Welsh nationalists – all charmed in the end by British imperialism – and the second wave of Welsh nationalists, which has consistently been highly critical of the pomp and presumption of British imperialism and all other forms of imperialism for that matter. Once more, Ireland’s example, as J.E. Jones had pointed out, in being the first nation to free itself of Westminster’s clutches, was key in setting the tone.

And as we come to a close it is perhaps worth contemplating the following.

Over time the majority of Sinn Fein’s influence which formed so much of the world view and policy programme of the early Plaid Genedlaethol was by-passed. Welsh nationalists turned their backs on absentionism; on economic self-sufficiency; the party became content enough with working alongside British parties – the ‘English parties’, as the founders’ generation would have called them – in order to win concessions for Wales; and in 2003 the party decided to adopt ‘independence’ as its constitutional goal. One thing which however remains and it would be true to say has grown stronger than ever (almost) a century later is its objection to imperialism and, linked to that, its very different approach to international politics. One could in fact argue that this is the greatest and most fundamental difference nowadays in attitudes between the contemporary Plaid Cymru and the inheritors of the first wave of Welsh nationalism in the pro-Welsh wing of the Labour party. But you will have to wait for the book to hear more about that…

Thank you very much for your attention.

[1] Director of the Wales Governance Centre, Cardiff University.

[2] Saunders Lewis, ‘O.M. Edwards,’ in Gwynedd Pierce (ed) Triwyr Penllyn (Cardiff: Plaid Cymru, undated), p. 31

[3] Saunders Lewis, ‘O.M. Edwards,’ in Gwynedd Pierce (ed) Triwyr Penllyn (Cardiff: Plaid Cymru, undated), p. 31

[4] D. Tecwyn Lloyd, John Saunders Lewis: Y Gyfrol Gyntaf (Denbigh: Gwasg Gee, 1988), p. 185

Women in Plaid Cymru

Women in Plaid Cymru

For the Plaid Cymru Conference in October 2013, an exhibition was prepared of Women in Plaid Cymru during the early years by Yvonne Balakrishnan, on benhalf of the Plaid Cymru History Society.

Here is the information about those women and some additional women.

 

Efelyn Williams

From Cwm Rhondda originally, Efelyn Williams went to the Barry Training College wher she gained a reputation as a rigorous student with a thirst for knowledge. She was faithful to a variety of Welsh organisations such as the Sunday School in the chapel, the Urdd and Plaid Cymru and went regularly to the Summer School. Her quiet influence was significant.

 

Jennie Gruffydd (1899 – 1970)

In the 1929 general election the Party gained the most of its votes in Talysarn and thanks for this was due to Miss Jennie Griffiths. She was renowned in the area for her work for the Party and was always ready to accept any reponsibility asked of her. She went to the Bangor University College and became a teacher in the Lleyn peninsula and then to Talysarn.


Tegwen Clee (1901 – 1965)

One of the first women to join the Party, she was member of the Executive Committee and attended the Summer School every year. Originally from Ystalyfera she graduated from Cardiff University with honours in Welsh. She became a teacher in Llanelli and worked with organisations such ar the Urdd and Plaid Cymru. She wrote about Brittani in Y Ddraig Goch.

Nesta Roberts


Originally from Arfon she became a headmistress in talybont, Dyffryn Conwy. Sister of O.M.Edwards, she served as secretary of the party’r county committee in Caernarfonshire.
She was injured during the election of 1929 but continued to work for the fortnight campaigning despite the pain. She had a talent for public speaking and on one occasion whenm a speaker failed to turn up she took the platform and performed with ease.

 


Cathrin Huws, Caerdydd

Cathrin Huws was the secretary of the Cardiff College Branch. The secretary of East Glamorgan Committee and a member of thr editorial committee of The Welsh Nationalist. She was a candidate for the Glyndwr branch for a seat on Cardiff City Council. She was elected by the Conference to a seat on the Executive Committee – and all this before reaching the age of twenty three.

 

Dr Ceinwen H. Thomas (1911- 2008)

Originally from Nantgarw and well known for transcribing the Nantgarw Dances and for directing the Language Research Unit at Cardiff University which resulted in a corpus of information on the study of the Welsh language including the dialect known as the “Wenhwyseg”.
She became a member of Plaid Cymru whilst at University in the 1930’s. In the 40’s and 50’s, a difficult period in the history of the Party and also for the Welsh language, she fought for the party’s principles, Welsh history in the Education system,and the recognition of Monmouthshire as an historic part of Wales.

 

 

Mai Roberts

Mai Roberts was one of the initiators of the National Park and had worked to start a truly national movement before 1925. She was the first to contribute a payment when Plaid Cymru was formed and is therefore the first registered member of the Party. She became a member of the Executive Committee and contributed valuable administrative service during the parliamentary elections in Caernarfon in 1929 a 1931. She was also involved with other important organisations such as the Celtic League. Her service to Wales was immeasureable.

 


Kate Roberts – (1891 – 1985)

The most notable author in the Welsh language of the twentieth century.
Kate joined the Party at the Summer School in Machynlleth in 1926.
Once the Women’s Section was established Kate was elected ar Chair. She became responsible for the Women’s page of the official Party publication – “Y Ddraig Goch”.

 

 

Priscie Roberts

Sister to Mai Roberts, she joined the Party under the influence of Lewis Valentine at the Summer Sschool in Llangollen. She assisted the Party in caernarfonshire in many ways, keeping the financial accounts for three years in the period between H.R.Jones’ illness and J.E.Jones arriving at the Office. As Secretary of the Women’s Section in caernarfon she was key to the success of every occasion.

 


Llinos Roberts, Lerpwl

Llinos Roberts was the Secretary of the Liverpool Branch and also of the Area Committee and a member of the Executive Committee. Originally from the village of Penygroes near Talysarn she became influential within the “new movement” as it was known at the time in Dyffryn Nantlle. She was a proficient speaker, debater and planner for the Party.

 

 

Nora Celyn Jones

She was from Caernarfon originally but spent her life in Caerffili, Glamorganshire. She was nurtured in a home where Welsh Culture was of great importance. She went to the Training College in Barry and while there was the secretary of the Welsh Society. Later, when teaching at an elementary school in Senghennydd, she worked consistently with Welsh organisations in the area. She was the secretary of the Urdd in Caerffili.

 


Nans Jones

Nans Jones (Anni Mary Jones) was born in Tafarn Newydd, Penrhosgarnedd near Bangor. Later her family moved to Treborth. She joined Plaid Cymru at 15 years of age in 1930 five years after the party’s foundation. She became its full time accountant in 1942 at the office located in Caernarfon. Nans left North Wales in 1947 when the headquarters moved to Cardiff and for decades her work played an indespensible role in the Party’s administration.

 

Cassie Davies (1898 – 1988)

 

Cassie Davies MA comes from Ceredigion and became a teacher at Barry Training College after graduating with honours in both Welsh and English at University College Aberystwyth. She became a member of Plaid very early in its history and became a noted pblic orator as well as writing regularly for the Draig Goch. She was a close friend of two other Plaid women menbers, Dr Kate Roberts and Mai Roberts.


Eileen Beasley (1921 – 2012)

Eileen (James) Beasley was originally from rural Carmarthenshire but moved to Llangennech after meeting her husband, Trefor, at Plaid Cymru meetings and subsequently marrying. Both were elected as local councillors o Llanelli District Council in 1955. But she is best known ar a Welsh language campaigner. She and her husband demanded to receive council rate bills in Welsh and bravely fought an eight year ultimately successful action. Eileem is remembered as the ‘mother of direct action’ in Wales.

 

Elizabeth Williams (1891 – 1979)

Born in Blaenau Ffestiniog in 1891, the daughter of a quarryman, she studied Welsh in Aberystwyth where she met Griffith John Williams whom she later married. It was in their house in Penarth in January 1924 that they met with Ambrose Bebb and Saunders Lewis and formed a new Welsh Movement, with Bebb as President, G J Williams as Treasurer and Saunders a Secretary. Elizabeth took the minutes and kept a record of the movement’s growth until it joined a group from Gwynedd to form the National Party at Pwllheli in 1925.
When she died in 1979 she left her house in Gwaelod y Garth to the Party.

 

Also there is an interesting dissertation here  – ‘The height of its womanhood’: Women and gender in Welsh nationalism, 1847-1945 
by Jodie Alysa Kreider, Prifysgol Arizona.

https://repository.arizona.edu/handle/10150/280621

 

Celebrating the first Plaid Cymru Meeting

Friday 12 January 2024 Plaid Cymru met in Penarth to celebrate 100 years since the first meeting to establish the party.

Leanne Wood, Rosanne Reeves, Richard Wyn Jones, Gareth Clubb

Here are the contributions of Leanne Wood and Richard Wyn Jones at the start of the meeting.

 

Lively Kick-off for Centenary Celebrations

A series of events marking the foundation of Plaid Cymru nearly a hundred years ago got off to a lively start in Penarth on Friday 12 January 2024 at the Belle Vue Community Centre, Albert Crescent, Penarth. 

Plaid members and guests took part in an evening to celebrate the formation of a secret group, the Mudiad Cymreig or Welsh movement, one of the organisations whose fusion a year later led to the formal launch of the national party.

Those present at the meeting  on 7 January 1924 in Bedwas Place, Penarth, were Ambrose Bebb, Griffith John Williams, Elisabeth Williams and Saunders Lewis, the great poet, playwright and future leader of the party, who subsequently lived in Penarth from 1952 until his death in 1985.

Former Plaid leader and Rhondda Senedd Member Leanne Wood and Welsh Governance Centre Director Richard Wyn Jones led discussion of the last century of Plaid Cymru’s campaigning and its future prospects.

Leanne Wood paid tribute to all those activists who, although not prominent themselves,  had worked for Wales throughout the last century, especially the many women who had played a key role in building a nation.  This was echoed by Professor Richard Wyn Jones, who went on to analyse the circumstances that led to the launch of Plaid Cymru and the challenges and opportunities it now faces.

Their presentations in Penarth’s refurbished Belle Vue pavilion were followed by a lively discussion session – about Plaid’s future role as well as the party’s performance over the last one hundred years. 

There was a spirited debate about exactly when and where Plaid Genedlaethol Cymru came into existence: Richard Wyn Jones argued for Caernarfon in December 2024, but from the audience Gwenno Dafydd – one of three descendants of Ambrose Bebb present – put forward a powerful case for Penarth.  Officially, however, the centenary will be celebrated in August next year, the 100th anniversary of a meeting held in Pwllheli during the National Eisteddfod of 1925.

The event was organised by Plaid’s Penarth and Dinas Powys branch with the support of the Plaid Cymru History Society.  It was chaired by Gaeth Clubb

“We are delighted with the strong turnout for this highly successful evening, the first of a series of events which will trace the formation of Wales’ national movement a century ago” said History Society Chairman Dafydd Williams.

 

 

About the Society

CYMDEITHAS HANES PLAID CYMRU HISTORY SOCIETY

Aims of the Society

To promote discussion, knowledge and research about Plaid Cymru’s history and aspects of history relating to Plaid Cymru.

To spread knowledge of the individuals and events that contributed to the development of the Party.

Membership

Membership is open to individuals and organisations interested in the history of Plaid Cymru and aspects of history dealing with Plaid Cymru

Officers of the Society

Chair; Dafydd Williams, Secretary; Eluned Bush, Treasurer; Stephen Thomas 

http://www.hanesplaidcymru.org.

The Plaid Cymru History website now provides the key to a range of visual, recorded and written material about our national movement.

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  • We are all part of the history of the Party. Would you like to share your experiences with other members and record them for future researchers?

If so, contact the Secretary on history@hanesplaidcymru.org

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There is a section on the Society’s web site with advice on what to do with them.

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All of the society’s events are recorded, transcribed and translated and entered on the Society’s web site.

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If so, why not join the Society for £10 annually for individuals or £20 annually for Branches and Constituencies. Contact the Treasurer (stephenv.thomas@btinternet.com ) for information on how to pay.

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