Scottish Referendwm

Among the many people from Wales who travelled north to help the campaign for Scottish independence were Gwerfyl Hughes Jones, Llanuwchllyn and Mari Evans and Dafydd Williams from Swansea.  This is an unofficial record of their referendum week.

Monday 15 September 2014

‘Pob lwc’ – all the best was the encouraging farewell as we left Bala for Scotland a few days before the independence referendum, the first time for a century for one of the Celtic nations to challenge the might of the British state.

We had heard that Dumfries and the border areas were lukewarm, so crossing the Scots border gave a boost.  There were at least as many Yes as No posters along the road, and it seemed that the temperature increased the further north we travelled towards the small town of Balerno on the outskirts of Edinburgh, the home of our friend Morag Dunbar, who is well acquainted with Wales.

2014m09Yes Nicola Alex

Tuesday 16 September

We reported for duty at the office of Gordon MacDonald, SNP member of the Scottish parliament.  This was the Yes Scotland headquarters for the Edinburgh Pentlands constituency.  The organisation was truly impressive, with plenty of work ready and waiting for the dozens of volunteers who were turning up but time for a warm welcome from Gordon and his fellow workers for the Welsh contingent.  It was reminiscent of the atmosphere of the Caerffili by-election back in the 1960s – and there was something similar taking place the length and breadth of Scotland.

Before long we were out distributing Yes campaign literature in Saughton, a working class area of Edinburgh – a folded mini-leaflet summing up the key massages of the campaign together with a striking red poster urging a Yes vote to end Tory rule for ever!  And the impression we got was that people were listening to the message and talking about it – in an area that would have been counted as a Labour stronghold until just a few years ago.

Time for a quick lunch in the local Sainsbury where the young man behind the counter was pleased to see our campaign badges – he and his friends were backing the Yes campaign, he said.  Then back to a neighbouring area, Stenhouse, and coping with several tenements where we needed to persuade one of the local residents to open the door for us to spread the good news!

In the evening we boarded the 44 bus to the centre of Edinburgh to meet Neasa, a young woman from County Kerry in the West of Ireland in the Cafe Royale, which despite its name is a celebrated tavern rightly proud of its traditional ale.  And plenty of discussion about the referendum there too – at the bar I bumped into Donny who had met other Welsh volunteers, including one group who had camped, the grandchildren of Gwynfor Evans among them.

2014m09Yes Placard

Wednesday 17 September

Of course not everyone’s supportive.  Campaigning in the Broomhouse area we met a 92-year-old lady who was voting ‘Nae!’, her flat plastered with No campaign posters.  Despite that, in Broomhouse too there was plenty of evidence of the Yes campaign.  Not so the Press.  The day before the referendum vote the tabloid papers were viciously against, with no attempt to give space to both sides.  Their open bias reflected the real nature of the contest, with the Establishment playing every trick in the book to prevent  Scotland from moving ahead – the press barons joining up with the Westminster elite, the bankers and some bus business chiefs to create fear.

In the afternoon Colin took us over to the Oxgang Road to offer last minute stickers to traffic held up by road works – not the most enjoyable way of spreading the word.  You could readily sense the difference in response between people in more expensive cars and others; those in the top of the range vehicles, with some exceptions, refusing abruptly, while ordinary more ready to accept the blue Yes stickers.  But there was no mistaking the strong support for independence among the young people walking home from school, some of them over 16 years of age and preparing to vote the next day.  Perhaps that was the big story of the referendum – the fearful opposition of the elderly versus the enthusiastic support of the young for a better future.  One poll on referendum day found discovered that a majority of people under 55 had voted Yes.

2014m09Yes Cerbyd Ymgyrchb

Thursday 18 September

The day of destiny dawned.  We were already equipped with a substantial quota of reminder cards and away we went to the Wester Hailes to take them from door to door.  An area to be compared with Ely in Cardiff, said some, but the streets in our patch were pleasant and well maintained.  Children had a day off school of course, and we met a young girl and her brother who were holding their own opinion poll on how people were voting, by studying the window posters on display and asking passers-by how they were voting – their score was 22-1 for Yes (but that did include three from Wales!)

As we neared the end of our quota, who should appear round the corner but two familiar faces, Lis and Emyr Puw from Llanuwchllyn, despatched on the same mission!  That set us thinking how many people  from Wales had travelled to work for independence for Scotland, scores if not hundreds for sure, helping to cancel out the negative voices of Welsh Labour politicians.

Then it was down to the centre of Edinburgh to experience some of the thrill of this unique campaign.  We found a place to park in the elegant Charlotte Square, where as well as Yes posters some large Union Jacks demonstrated the opposition of a substantial number of those in the financial and professional sectors to independence for their country.  But outside Scotland’s striking Parliament the Yes campaign was everywhere, a colourful crowd of blue posters and Saltire flags with a number of loudspeaker vans raising the temperature.  In the quiet of the Parliament chamber itself, we talked with a young man originally from Birchgrove, Swansea who now works in the oil industry; he told us of a friend who went to his polling station intending to vote No but ended up voting Yes.

That evening on the Royal Mile, we met a number of young people from Catalunya and the Basque Country, dedicating holiday time to take part in a historic event, their singing and dancing adding to the atmosphere and the feeling that something truly great was about to happen.  Then we got involved in an exchange of views with a Better Together outside a polling station – given their support for Trident missiles, consensus was never really on the cards!
2014m09Yes Campaign tricycle

Friday 19 September

Then it was back to Balerno to watch the result.  For the first time, I had begun to hope that the Yes campaign could win against all the odds, however much the head told the heart that a Yes vote was a big ask.  So it was a disappointment to see the first council to declare, Clackmannan, going to the No side and the hope for independence fade.  I grabbed some sleep before coming back to see the Fife area confirming that Scotland would have to wait before joining the world.  It was sad to walk the streets of Edinburgh down towards the Holyrood Parliament once again, the drizzly weather reflecting our feelings.  We bumped into Richard Wyn Jones on the Royal Mile, his analysis as incisive as ever.  There were a number of Red Dragon flags among the crowd outside the parliament building although things were quieter than the day before.  On our way back came another blow as we heard by text of the resignation of the SNP leader Alex Salmond, a hero to many throughout  the Celtic nations.

But on our way back to Wales that evening, we still felt the excitement of being in a truly historic battle for the soul of our sister nation.  With the younger generation in favour, I have no doubt that Scotland will continue its journey to independence.  We didn’t win this battle, not quite, but the dream lives on.

Dafydd Williams

Into The Fray – Scotland 2014

Into The Fray

by Alan Jobbins.

2014m09Alan Jobbins YesPlaid History secretary Alan Jobbins travelled with Owen John and Sian Thomas to Scotland to help the Yes campaign in Scotland’s independence referendum. Here is his story.

Landing at Glasgow I wondered what was in store for Owen & Sian and myself. Glasgow being almost solid Labour land, what hope could there be for a ‘Yes’ vote?

We were quickly into the fray. Canvassing, leafleting houses and streets, singing and chanting with flash mobs – plus knocking up and polling booth duty. A particular memory was canvassing in a deprived area where voter after vote said ‘Yes’.

The ‘Yes’ Campaign was marvellous, well-organised, hard working – and even feeding us.

Late night St. Georges Square was inspirational with flags, bands, speeches and cheering. Even the shouting of a group of Loyalists waving Union flags only added to our good mood.

The result in Glasgow was for us – and another Referendum is inevitable. But when? Aided by the antics of Cameron and the other Unionist parties, before long.

Photo: Alan Jobbins in Glasgow – backing the Yes campaign

Meredydd Evans 1919 – 2015

Meredydd EvansWales has lost one of her foremost nationalists, Dr Meredydd Evans, who has died at the age of 95.

A respected figure in the country’s life, Merêd was always ready to take a courageous stand for his nation’s language, culture and future.

We extend our sympathy and best wishes to Phyllis and the family.

 

Meredydd Evans BBC 1966
Dr Meredydd Evans in 1966 – in his post as head of light enterntainment for BBC Wales.

 

Dr John Davies, Historian

John Davies BwlchllanThe Plaid Cymru History Society extends its condolences to the family of the late John Davies.  A leading historian John Bwlch-llan was a prominent and active member of Plaid Cymru.  A number of tributes have been published, including these:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/john-davies-academic-and-broadcaster-whose-peerless-histories-of-wales-were-rich-with-insight-and-fascinating-detail-10054868.html

http://www.clickonwales.org/2015/02/the-most-cosmopolitan-of-all-welsh-historians/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ynys Mon/Anglesey Bryn Cefni Industrial Estate,
Llangefni. LL77 7JA
www.anglesey.gov.uk/archives 01248 7519131 Hayden Burns archives@anglesey.gov.uk
Morgannwg/Glamorgan Clos Parc Morgannwg Caerdydd/Cardiff.
CF11 8AW
www.glamarchives.gov.uk 02920 872200 Charlotte Hodgson glamro@cardiff.gov.uk
Dinbych/Denbighshire The Old Gaol,
46 Clwyd St,
Ruthin. LL151HP
www.denbighshire.gov.uk/archives 01824 708250 Jane Brunning archives@denbighshire/gov.uk
Caerfyrddin/
Carmarthenshire
Parc Myrddin
Richmond Tce. Caerfyrddin/Carmarthen SA3 1HW
http://www.carmarthenshire.gov.uk/ 01267 228232 David Cooke archives@carmarthenshire.gov.uk
Penfro/Pembrokeshire Prendergast, Haverfordwest
SA61 2PE
www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/archives 01437 775456 Nikki Bosworth recordoffice@pembrokeshire.gov.uk
Powys County Hall, Llandrindod. LD15LG http://archives.powys.gov.uk 01597 826085 Roz Williamson archive@powys.gov.uk
Gwent Steelworks Rd,
Ebbw Vale. NP23 6DN
www.gwentarchives.gov.uk 01495 353361 Angela Saunderson enquiries@gwentarchives.gov.uk
Conwy/Conway The Old Board School, Lloyd St, Llandudno. LL30 2YG www.conwy.gov.uk/archives 01492 577550 Susan Ellis archifau.archives@conwy.gov.uk
Fflint/Flintshire The Old Rectory, Hawarden. CH5 3NR www.flintshire.gov.uk/archives 01244 532264 Steven Davies / Claire Harrington archives@flintshire.gov.uk
Ceredigion Old Town Hall,Queens Sq. Aberystwyth SY23 2EB www.archifdy-ceredigion.org.uk 01970 633697 Helen Palmer / Ania Skarzynska archives@ceredigion.gov.uk
Caernarfon Council Offices
Shirehall St
Caernarfon LL55 1SH
www.gwynedd.gov.uk/archives 01286 679087 Lynn C Francis LynnCFrancis@gwynedd.gov.uk
Meirionydd Ffordd y Bala
Dolgellau LL40 2YF
www.gwynedd.gov.uk/archives 01341 424682 Merfyn Wyn Tomos MerfynWynTomos@gwynedd/gov.uk
 

Books

Books

Title Author Year Language Publisher
Voice From the Valleys Phil Williams 1981 S Plaid Cymru
Gwynfor Evans Pennar Davies 1976 C Tŷ John Penry
Rhagom i Ryddid Gwynfor Evans 1964 C Plaid Cymru
A National Future for Wales Gwynfor Evans 1975 S Plaid Cymru
Triwyr Penllyn Gwynedd Pierce 1960 C Plaid Cymru
Cymru’n Deffro John Davies 1981 C Y Lolfa
Tân yn Llŷn Dafydd Jenkins 1937 C Gwasg Aberystwyth
Wales a Nation Again P. Berresfod Ellis 1968 S Tandem
O Ddifri 1 Dafydd Wigley 1992 C Gwasg Gwynedd
Dal Ati 2 Dafydd Wigley 1993 C Gwasg Gwynedd
Wales Can Win Gwynfor Evans 1973 S Christopher Davies, Llandybie
The Story of Plaid Cymru Dafydd Williams 1990 S Plaid Cymru
Aros Mae Gwynfor Evans 1971 C Gwasg John Penry, Abertawe
Seiliau Hanesyddol Cenedlaetholdeb Cymru Chwech Darlith 1950 C Plaid Cymru
The Historical Basis of Welsh Nationalism Six Lectures 1950 S Plaid Cymru
Seiri Cenedl Gwynfor Evans 1986 C Gwasg Gomer
Tros Gymru J.E. a’r Blaid J. E. Jones 1970 C Gwasg John Penry, Abertawe
Geiriau Gwynfor Peter Hughes Griffiths 2006 C Y Lolfa
Towards Welsh Freedom Dr D J Davies 1958 S Plaid Cymru
Gwynfor. Rhag pob brad Rhys Evans 2005 C Y Lolfa
The Fight for Welsh Freedom Gwynfor Evans 2000 S Y Lolfa
         
         
Welsh and Scottish Nationalism A Study Sir Reginald Coupland 1954 S Collins
When Was Wales? Gwyn A. Williams 1985 S Penguin Books
Rebirth of a Nation 1880 – 1980 Kenneth O. Morgan 1981 S Oxford University Press.
University of Wales Press
The Welsh Nationalist Party 1925 – 45
A Call to Nationhood
D.Hywel Davies 1983 S University of Wales Press,
and St Martin’s Press, New York
Welsh Nationalism in the Twentieth Century,
The Ethnic Option and the Modern State
Charlotte Aull Davies 1989 S Praeger
Plaid Cymru. The Emergence of a Political Party Laura McAllister 2001 S Seren
Plaid Cymru . An Ideological Analysis Alan Sandry 2011 S Welsh Academic Press
The Fascist Party in Wales? Richard Wyn Jones 2014 S UWP
Ein Stori Ni Emrys Roberts 2017 C Y Lolfa
From Depression to Devolution.  Leon Gooberman 2017 S UWP
Cows Cobs & Corner Shops Y Lôn Laeth i’r Ddinas   Megan Hayes 2018 S Y Lolfa
Hanes yn y Tir Elin Jones 2021 C Gwasg Carreg Gwalch
History Grounded Elin Jones 2021 S Gwasg Carreg Gwalch
The Welsh Language in Cardiff Owen John Thomas 2021 S Y Lolfa
Eutopia: Studies in Euro-Welshness.  M.Wynn Thomas 2021 S UWP
The Impact of Devolution in Wales   2022 S UWP
Hands Off Wales  Dr Wynn Thomas 2022 S Y Lolfa
Causes in Common.  Daryl Leeworthy 2022 S UWP
Brittle with Relics  A History of Wales 1962 – 1997.  Richard King 2023 S Faber
Putting Wales First: The Political Thought of Plaid Cymru. Richard Wyn Jones 2024 S UWP
The Politics of Co-Opposition John Osmond 2024 S Welsh Academic Press
1964 Rhagom i Ryddyd 1981Cymru'n Deffro
1975 National Future for Wales 1981 Voice from the Valleys
1990 Story of Plaid Cymru 1983 Call to Nationhood
2001 Plaid Cymru The Emergence of a Political Party  

 

 

Clive Reid, Swansea 1935 – 2014

2014Clive Reid GwyrTributes have been paid to the late Clive Reid, Swansea, who died in November 2014.   A former Plaid Cymru parliamentary candidate for Swansea East and chairman of the Swansea West constituency, his life was honoured at his funeral in orations by the Rev Jill Hayley Harries, Heini Gruffudd and Gruffydd ap Gwent.

Photos of Clive Reid, courtesy of Anne Reid and Heini Gruffudd

Clive Reid, Swansea

Sadly Wales has lost Clive Reid, a well-known chemist as well as a staunch member of Plaid Cymru. Clive was brought up in Barry in a seafaring family but moved to work and live in Swansea. This tribute was delivered in Welsh at his funeral by Heini Gruffudd and translated by Dafydd Williams.

 

It is a privilege to say a word about Clive, and recall his strength of character as well as his civilised and pleasant demeanour.

Thank the lord for the deacon in Walham Green Welsh chapel in London who advised Clive and Anne that within the space of two years they would settle down to live there for good. What a shame that other Welsh people did not react in the same way as Clive, by moving back to Wales – and ironic that Walham Green chapel closed in 1988. Clive’s response to that advice indicates his dedication to Wales and his determination to live a full life as a Welshman.

Step by step he set about mastering the Welsh language, with great success. He enjoyed his Welsh lessons in school and pursued an O level in the language. On his mother’s side of the family he had Welsh-speaking relations and he became a member of Urdd Gobaith Cymru. Meeting Anne ensured another reason for persisting, and a long time was to elapse before Sara, David and Mari realised the significance of their parents’ decision to raise their family in a Welsh-speaking home. Clive was an embodiment of the way in which the Welsh language can gain ground.

Clive and Anne arrived in Swansea at a time of great excitement in Wales. This was the era of the drowning of Tryweryn, Gwynfor winning Carmarthen, and the foundation of Cymdeithas yr Iaith. Soon Plaid Cymru won seats in Meirionnydd and Caernarfon, and, with others, Clive saw to it that the waves of national renaissance reached Swansea as well.

After settling down in Killay, by now with a young child, he became aware of the evident anti-Welsh nature of political life of Swansea at the time. Clive was not ready to accept the way so many Swansea politicians, especially those in the Labour Party, were so ready to turn their backs on their national heritage, and he became a keen letter writer to the local paper.

He served as chairman of Plaid Cymru in Swansea West for three years and set up a chemist’s shop in Morriston. A small room at the back of the shop became the venue of many meetings that discussed Plaid and the nation, while he was dispensing medicines.

Clive contested a number of local elections in Morriston, defeating Labour in 1976, but not beating the Ratepayers. He also stood twice at Parliamentary level in Swansea East, sadly without any success. At the same time he served as Plaid’s spokesperson on health.

He held strong beliefs. He campaigned against cutting the number of beds in West Glamorgan hospitals, and against an army exhibition in Margam Park, which, in his view, was attracting young people to the armed forces without their recognising the dangers or the moral implications.

Here in Swansea there were campaigns to set up a Welsh-medium secondary school, which followed Clive’s wise counsel to decline going to Sandfields in the shadow of its chemical works.

Before that came the intrusion of the 1969 Investiture, of which Clive was critical. It was not that pantomime that was important to him that year, but the setting up of the Welsh-medium Ysgol Gyfun Ystalyfera. So what would he do, when invited by the residents of Lôn Camlad, to open their street party? Some of them were customers in his shop, and they saw the occasion as a national celebration. So what could be done but turn up to open the party, with me in attendance to take photographs and understand that there was more than one idea of Wales.

He talked about the time that he heard a Labour candidate trying to convince customers in his shop, not knowing he could hear, telling them, “We are not Nationalists, we are Internationalists”. Clive knew that this was a ‘British nationalist’ talking, whose internationalism went no further than London.

And Clive was certain in his backing for the highest standards of internationalism. He took an interest in Europe’s small countries, with Brittany one of his favourite destinations. He held shares in the P&O shipping company, which meant he could take his car and caravan to the continent half price, and he took his family on several trips to Brittany and France in particular. Under his influence I also ventured into the world of stocks and shares, and travelled cheaply with the family to Europe. The channel tunnel and cheap air travel shattered the share values, but Clive and his family carried on with their travels.

After retirement he still continued to make the case for Wales and the Welsh language. He was in correspondence recently in the Chemists’ Society magazine on the topic of Welsh language prescriptions after Morrisons in Bangor refused to accept Welsh prescriptions. In his letter, Clive asked why Welsh was regarded as a problem, although along with many other countries in the world Wales is a bilingual country. And then he reminded his readers that half a century ago the language of prescriptions was Latin.

That was the sort of person Clive was: well informed, conscientious, committed, someone who served his community and Wales with the highest standards.

You, his heirs and descendents, can be proud of him, remembering his ceaseless care for you. We remember him with the deepest respect, thanking him for his contribution, and recalling his late daughter, who was so dear to him, to you and to us.

Heini Gruffudd

2014Clive Reid Llun Ymgyrch

Remembering Clive Reid

This tribute was delivered in Welsh at his funeral by Gruffydd ap Gwent and translated by Dafydd Williams

I first met Clive in the early 60s, after I returned from college in Aberystwyth, through the involvement we both had with Plaid Cymru. He had to come to live in Swansea after two years in London, full of enthusiasm for everything that was good about Wales and keen to share and defend what he recognised as our nation’s treasures. This was his dream and he saw Plaid Cymru as the best vehicle to fulfil it.

On the whole politics in Swansea at that time was rather flat, but suddenly everything was changed in July 1966 when Gwynfor Evans won the Carmarthen By-election. Wales was alight and the period that followed, with by-elections in the Rhondda and Caerffili, was remarkably exciting. Everything was possible. Clive was in the thick of things and delighted. Several people remarked that Clive, like Gwynfor, came from Barry and had learnt Welsh. Another boost for our expectations!

From the office in Cardiff came the command that Plaid Cymru had to stand in every parliamentary constituency in Wales in the next General Election. That meant a quite unexpected development for me. One evening I answered the door in Yr Olchfa to discover Dr J. Gwyn Griffiths and Clive on the step. I gave in to their plea to stand as candidate in Swansea West and a new window opened in my life.

Over time Clive’s focus was increasingly drawn to Swansea East and the back room of Reid’s Chemist shop on Morriston Square became a centre for Plaid activity. Clive’s penetrating letters in the Evening Post were a source of inspiration for Plaid members everywhere and his dedication to fight for the people of Swansea East in particular an example to us all. Later on Clive himself stood as parliamentary candidate.

Today we remember and give thanks for Clive the patriot, the campaigner for justice, the chemist and Christian, but above all, Clive the man, the civilised gentleman, the friend and father. To him his family came first – Anne, Sara, David, Mari and the grandchildren. We know that life was not always easy for this family but in both fair and stormy weather Clive’s place was in the bosom of his family.

We are all richer for having known Clive and the world is a better place because of his life.

Thank you Clive.

Gruffydd ap Gwent

1947 – The War Office Creating Havoc in Wales

1947 – The War Office Creating Havoc in Wales (as told by two cuttings in Plaid Cymru’s Welsh-language paper, Y Ddraig Goch)

1947 Tregaron Y Ddraig Goch TachweddWHY?

Because the War Office was considering a takeover of 27,000 acres of agricultural land in the Tregaron area to provide a training camp for the Royal Engineers. This followed similar actions in Penyberth, Epynt, the Preseli mountains etc.  Later on, enlargement of the military camp at Bronaber near Trawsfynydd was also considered. Plaid Cymru led the opposition to all these in turn.

WHEN?

The campaign to save Tregaron in particular was fought between the autumn of 1947 and the summer of 1948.  The date of the protest seen in these two cuttings was Thursday, 16 October 1947.

WHERE?

The protest seen in the two images (‘the procession of flags’) took place in Park Place, Cardiff on Thursday, 16 October 1947.  On that day, the War Office was staging a conference with other government ministries to discuss the plans.  Dozens of telegrams were presented from all parts of Wales opposing the proposal to the Town and Country Planning official in Park Place that morning.

1947 Hydref 22 Baner ac Amserau CymruWHO?

Plaid Cymru led the campaign in Tregaron, in cooperation with local farmers and Undeb Cymru Fydd.  The protest in Cardiff was specifically organised by Plaid Cymru, with 20 party members taking part.  In the second picture, the procession is led by Nans Jones who worked in Plaid’s office in Cardiff.  She can be seen in the first picture too, standing second on the right next to the General Secretary J. E. Jones, (who is standing on the pavement).

WHAT was the result?

Some battles were won, others lost.  This was among those that were won, and the War Office gave up its plans to take over land in Tregaron by the summer of 1948.


Hanes Plaid Cymru